AMD "Barcelona": clocks

Ansatsu disse:
Não interessa de nada ao Barcelona ser mais rápido clock por clock, quando o Top deles funciona a 2.5Ghz e deve custar para ai 1500 dólares. Essa velocidade é do Mid-End da Intel e não deve custar mais de 300 dolares.
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Antes de mais estamos a discutir links do Fudzilla certo? Logo ai é preciso ter cuidado.

E aquilo são os preços do Barcelona que é os CPU´s para servidor. Não pode haver analogias directas com os Phenom que um CPU desktop.
 
AMD Native x86 Quad-Cores Shipping In August

AMD announced today that Quad-Core AMD Opteron™ processors, code-named “Barcelona,” are planned for shipment in both standard and low power versions at launch later this summer. This would be the first time AMD has made both standard and low power parts immediately available as part of a new processor launch.

During this first launch, processor speeds are expected to be available up to 2.0 GHz.

Source: AMD.com
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2348 1.9GHz 95W $320
2350 2.0GHz 95W $390
2352 2.1GHz 95W $450
2354 2.2GHz 95W $610
2356 2.3GHz 95W $795
2358 2.4GHz 120W $1180
2360 2.5GHz 120W TBA
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so o nome destes CPU's assusta
e depois a diferenca entre eles e de apenas 100mhz? e que o preco de um para o outro aumenta tanto para apenas 100mhz :S
e sao esses que ai no post do mascas dizem que sao Low power? 95W nao e assim tao low (so ser for mesmo para um QCore..)
 
Intel Ships Over 1 Million Quad-core CPUs

At last year's Intel Developer Forum, Intel pledged to ship 1 million quad-core processors before AMD ships a single Barcelona processor. Intel reached this milestone yesterday, approximately two months ahead of schedule. Intel's quad-core product lineup currently consists of mid-to-high-end models for desktops, workstations and servers. The company plans to slash prices on Core 2 Quad and Core 2 Extreme processors come July 22, 2007. Price cuts for the workstation and server Intel Xeon processors will come shortly afterwards.

Intel plans to penetrate the enterprise server markets with quad-core Tigerton-based Xeon 7300-sequence processors later this quarter. The upcoming Intel Xeon 7300-sequence processors can scale up to 32 processors and utilizes a new point-to-point bus system that allows each processor to have independent communication with the chipset. Later in 2008, Intel plans to introduce the new Tukwila quad-core Itanium processors. Tukwila is Intel's first processor to take advantage of the new common system interface, or CSI. As Intel moves the Xeon product lineup to the CSI bus, the Xeon and Itanium product lineups will begin to share architecture similarities.

It seems to me that AMD really needs to price Barcelona quite a bit above the $266 Q6600 in order to recover R&D investments and to generally become profitable again. But it seems like Intel's pricing is not going to allow that to be possible. I also worry about AMD having lower yield having all four cores on one die, as well as their apparent inability to scale Barcelona - I doubt it can be competitive at <= 2GHz.

The other thing is that going from a 2.2GHz dual-core to a 2.2GHz quad core will provide you at least the same performance in applications that don't have a multi-threaded design, probably with a tiny improvement due to more background processes running on other cores. If you have a 2.6GHz dual-core processor today, unless you run apps that are multi-threaded and can take advantage of the extra cores, you won't want to go to a 2.4GHz or less clocked quad-core processor. Now, it would be interesting to see if AMD can release higher-clocked dual-core processors based on the K10 design with higher clock speeds by the end of the year. That would provide a faster return on that R&D investment. I figure, if quad-core is at 2.2GHz by November, a dual-core K10 should be able to get to 2.6GHz, and that would sell
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e pronto é assim......
 
Zarolho disse:
Na minha opinião e dado a situação relativamente difícil em que se encontra neste momento a AMD, acho que o K10 devia entrar forte no mercado de modo ajudar mais rapidamente a AMD devido aos fortes investimentos e á sangria do seu market-share.

Entrar «assim-assim», «nem peixe, nem carne», quando a sua rival possui fortes trunfos na manga e sendo muito mais competitiva... Não consigo olhar para AMD sem uma nuvem negra no horizonte... Eles lá sabem!
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Completamente de acordo!!
 
Mobo makers say AMD Phenom delayed until 1Q08, but AMD says launch remains set for 2H07 (update)

AMD's Phenom processors were originally planned to begin test-production between September and October, and to start shipping in November this year. However, AMD may now be planning to postpone Phenom's launch date to the first quarter of 2008, according to sources at motherboard makers.

AMD intends to modify its process technology to increase the yield rate and frequencies of Phenom processors in order to improve the competitiveness of the CPUs against Intel's Penryn family, said the sources. AMD has already notified several motherboard makers that Phenom will now begin test-production in November or December, and will launch in first quarter of 2008, noted the sources.

However, AMD has responded to this report by stating that the company's official launch schedule for Phenom remains the second half of 2007 and this schedule has not changed. The company added that it has not contacted motherboard makers concerning a delay to the schedule.

With Phenom set to not appear in 2007, several motherboard makers have made plans to decrease shipments of socket AM2+ motherboards and to increase those of Intel's platform, added the sources.

http://digitimes.com/mobos/a20070702PD201.html
 
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Mau quer-me parecer que se isso se vier a confirmar, o Phenom transformar-se-a num segundo R600, fala-se fala-se mas vê-lo nunca mais :(
 
Zarolho disse:
Mobo makers say AMD Phenom delayed until 1Q08, but AMD says launch remains set for 2H07 (update)

http://digitimes.com/mobos/a20070702PD201.html
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No update a AMD desmentiu esta noticia.
With Phenom set to not appear in 2007, several motherboard makers have made plans to decrease shipments of socket AM2+ motherboards and to increase those of Intel's platform, added the sources.
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Estas sources... parecem as mesma do Fud.

Se calhar tavam a falar nisto:

AMD to Keep Lowering Microprocessors' Thermal Design Power.
AMD’s New Phenom Chips to Consume 45W – Sources

In a bid to increase competitiveness of its microprocessor lineup as well as to make computers based on a number of next-generation chips more energy efficient, Advanced Micro Devices will introduce a number of low-power desktop chips in Q1 2008, according to sources close to the company.

AMD will offer three at least three models of dual-core AMD Phenom X2 processors with 45W thermal design power, sources close to AMD indicated. The new AMD Phenom X2 chips based on the new micro-architecture from the chipmaker will not have high TDP, though, they are projected to offer performance levels inline or higher with today’s dual-core AMD Athlon 64 X2 products with decreased power consumption.

The new dual-core AMD Phenom X2 processors with 45W power consumption are AMD Phenom X2 GE-6600 (2.3GHz, 512KB L2 per core, 2MB shared L3), GE-6500 (2.1GHz, 512KB L2 per core, 2MB shared L3) and GE-6400 (1.9GHz, 512KB L2 per core, 2MB shared L3). All of the chips are scheduled for introduction in Q1 2008, according to sources. The company is also expected to release AMD Phenom X2 GS-6650 (2.2 – 2.6GHz, 512KB L2 per core, 2MB shared L3) and AMD Phenom X2 GS-6550 (2.0 – 2.4GHz, 512KB L2 per core, 2MB shared L3) with 65W TDP in early Q1 2008 and late Q4 2008, respectively. There will also be AMD Phenom X2 GP-6800 microprocessor with up to 2.80GHz clock-speed and 89W thermal spec in the first quarter of next year.

Advanced Micro Devices has been consistent in its attempts to lower power consumption of its chips from 89W to 65W and from 65W to 45W. Already in the third quarter of the year AMD will have five dual-core chips with 45W TDP and a number of single-core offerings with similar thermal specs, which is an indicator that the chipmaker is pretty serious about offering low-power desktop solutions.

Power consumption of x86 chips used in the vast majority of desktops, laptops and servers has always been important, though, not really critical peculiarity of such microprocessors. Despite of the fact that the consumer still watches for highest performance, in the recent years many end-users started to pay much more attention to visual look of their computers as well as low acoustic levels, which catalyzed developers of CPUs and other main components of PCs to design hardware that would comply to their customers’ demands
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070630234819.html
 
A intel contra-ataca, e promete para Agosto um Quad-core a 2GHz com TDP de 50W:

Intel has four-core Opteron stuffer set for August

Barcelona: 'It could have been a contender'


Exclusive Intel looks set to blunt AMD's August Barcelona processor release by handing customers a 2.0GHz version of its four-core Clovertown, The Register has learned.



Just this morning, AMD announced that in August it will ship customers 1.9GHz low power and 2.0GHz standard editions of Barcelona - a four-core version of the Opteron server chip. Servers with the new chips should arrive in bulk in September and October. Intel, however, isn't sitting still from what we hear and looks set to effectively one-up AMD.


Chipzilla also in August will release a low voltage version of its four-core Xeon code-named Clovertown that runs at 2.0GHz, while consuming just 50W max power. By contrast, AMD's upcoming standard edition Opteron will eat up 95W, while the low power chip will eat up 68W. Intel's new 2.0GHz chip will also boast a 1333MHz front side bus, up from today's 1066MHz FSBs, according to our sources.

Intel currently ships a 50W version of Clovertown running at 1.86GHz, although most of the parts consume 80W.

The release of the 2.0GHz chip proves a nasty stab at AMD, which hoped to have the August fanfare to itself.

AMD looked to best Intel out of the gate with the new Opterons, although that seems like a bit of a dream now. The chip maker told us yesterday that its 2.0GHz four-core chip will beat today's Opterons by 50 per cent on average and will "outperform the competition on certain workloads."

Such talk is a far cry from AMD's previous chest-thumping around beating Clovertown by 40 to 50 per cent on a wide range on benchmarks. It seems AMD will need faster versions of Opteron, due out in the fourth quarter, to do such damage.

Customers must love the ferocity with which Intel and AMD are going at each other right now. AMD hands you twice the cores and then Intel slaps its rival in the face by handing you a part that matches AMD's clock rate while consuming less power.
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http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/06/29/intel_2ghz_clovertownlv/
 
AMD Shows Off More Quad-Core Server Processor Benchmark Results.
AMD Demos More Barcelona Test Results

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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070702235635.html

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AMD Second-Generation "Stars" Plans Unveiled
AMD puts second-generation "Stars" plans on its roadmap, now with more celestial names
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http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+SecondGeneration+Stars+Plans+Unveiled/article7913.htm

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AMD Prepares Phenom FX Lineup
Say hello to the Phenom FX-90 and FX-80 series
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Prepares+Phenom+FX+Lineup/article7912.htm

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AMD Phenom X2 GE-Series Details Unveiled
AMD drops the Phenom X2 TDP to 45-watts
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Phenom+X2+GESeries+Details+Unveiled/article7911.htm
 
Se mandassem era um CPU desbloqueado, como o meu velhinho AMD M 2500, é que faziam boa figura.....:x2:

So o €€€ que se poupava nas memorias........:004:


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