PS3 PlayStation 3 - Discussão Geral

Ansatsu disse:
Although Bioware, iD Software, e a Valve estão a desenvolver cada uma delas um jogo exclusivo para a PS3, ambas tb vão fazer jogos para a x360, mas pelo que se fala estes não vão ser exclusivos da x360.

Diz-se tb que o KOTOR3 vai passar a exclusivo da PS3.

A Sony anda a investir dinheiro nos exclusivos para ganhar o mercado de uma vez por todas.

Já não bastava ter os Final Fantasys, Gran Turismos, MGS(passou a exclusivo tb) etc etc, ainda quer ter mais :)
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Tanto rumor... lol.

Por acaso li exactamente o contrário, que a Sony não ia gastar tanto €€ desta vez em assegurar exclusividades mas sim investir em middleware. Não devo é ter link para o artigo vou procurar.

Mas enfim deve ser o sonho de muitos (por alguma razão) ver a Sony a ter o monopólio definitivo. Havia de ser bonito. Tinhamos PS2 por mais uns 2 ou 3 anos. :rolleyes:

A partnership da nVidia com a Sony, se tudo correr bem deve ser para durar.
 
Korben_Dallas disse:
Tanto rumor... lol.

Por acaso li exactamente o contrário, que a Sony não ia gastar tanto €€ desta vez em assegurar exclusividades mas sim investir em middleware. Não devo é ter link para o artigo vou procurar.

Mas enfim deve ser o sonho de muitos (por alguma razão) ver a Sony a ter o monopólio definitivo. Havia de ser bonito. Tinhamos PS2 por mais uns 2 ou 3 anos. :rolleyes:

A partnership da nVidia com a Sony, se tudo correr bem deve ser para durar.
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E vão investir mais dinheiro em midleware, mas isso n sgnifica que n deixem de olhar pros exclusivos e parece k o orçamento deles está bem gordinho e já estão a tratar tb disso.


Concorrençais nas consolas vai haver semrpe, quanto mais n seja pela parte da nintendo porque tem aqueles jogos feitos por eles que tem sempre vendas asseguradas, casos de Marios, Mario Kart, Zelda etc etc
 
O acordo com a Rockstar penso que finalmente expirou e com o nível de vendas do GTA um novo acordo vai ser bem mais caro.
Vai contar claro com o apoio de tudo o q é developer Japonês mas ao que parece "menos exclusivo"...
 
Korben_Dallas disse:
Tanto rumor... lol.

Por acaso li exactamente o contrário, que a Sony não ia gastar tanto €€ desta vez em assegurar exclusividades mas sim investir em middleware. Não devo é ter link para o artigo vou procurar.

Mas enfim deve ser o sonho de muitos (por alguma razão) ver a Sony a ter o monopólio definitivo. Havia de ser bonito. Tinhamos PS2 por mais uns 2 ou 3 anos. :rolleyes:

A partnership da nVidia com a Sony, se tudo correr bem deve ser para durar.
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e vais ter... a sony disse em 99 que a ps2 ia ter um ciclo de vida de 8 a 10 anos...
Já disse o mesmo acerca da PS3 tambem..
 
E pensar que o Archimedean dynasty duraria tanto tempo (desde o MS-DOS)...
É a génese do middleware Renderman da Criterion (usado para fazer os actuais GTA's, entre outros)
 
blazt disse:
Tambem ja se joga PS3 em casa...

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l0ol0ol, que cara de cromo que o gajo tem!
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PS3: More Details emerge in print

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"The folks over at Sony managed to get out some more details about the PS3 in the upcoming issue of PSM Magazine, so without any further ado, here are the goods.


No more memory cards. You know all that stuff about backwards compatibility with the PS2 and the original Playstation? Well, we've got good news and bad news for you. Your old save games won't be usable, thanks to the PS3's reliance on the Memory Stick Duo for storing save data. The good news is that downloading and saving shares via your PC (ahem, ahem) for all three Playstation versions and the PSP will be easy as pie. And we like pie.


Say bye-bye to peripherals. No more using knockoff DDR pads and wireless controllers, gang. Sony has officially disavowed support for all third-party controllers, but you'll still be able to play PS1/PS2 games just fine with a PS3 pad. My money's on a USB adapter coming out for it soon after release, though.


Specs? Um, what specs? Sure, Kutaragi might be singing "The best is yet to come, and babe, won't it be fine?" but he's a little off-key. All those impressive tech specs revealed at E3 weren't the be-all, end-all of the story. Engineers have begun talking about improvements to the system, including low-level memory upgrades and other things that make game developers all hot and bothered.


That hard drive isn't for games. No such luck in getting your save games for Avalon or Dark Sector onto the PS3's micro HDD; Sony wants you to use it for things like downloaded video content, MP3s, and photos. The network hub capabilities will then let you access it from any network-enabled device.


Use your PSP as a remote. Ever wish you could just power on your PlayStation from the couch? Well, grab a PSP and you'll be able to access the PS3 even in sleep mode. Couch potatotes, rejoice!


It will have TiVo-like capabilities. Sure, Sony, you might have told me sweet nothings about a USB video input box that will allow the PS3 to record movies and TV to the micro HDD, and you got me so worked up when you whispered to me about being able to download the shows I've missed from my PS3 to my PSP over the Internet, but I think I'll stick with DirecTiVo, thank you ver much.


Most games will be 720p. Yes, you'll still have 1080i and 1080p high-definition modes, but you can put off that HDTV purchase a little while longer with the news that most game developers are using 720p as the standard target resolution. Good thing, too; have you priced an HDTV-ready plasma recently? (Edit: tanjou's been good enough to point out that all you folks with EDTV won't get any 720p loving.)


Speed or quality, but not both. PC gamers have it so good. Battlefield 2 not running so well? Play it at a lower resolution and watch the game speed up. Sony wants to have games run faster and smoother by dropping the resolution, but it remains to be seen whether game developers will let us have that choice.

The September issue of PSM Magazine will be available at a newsstand near you in a few weeks."


in Arstechnica.com
 
Final Fantasy VII for PS3 May Become Reality

After making the E3 Final Fantasy tech demo a central part of the trailer compilation shown at this year's Square-Enix Party in Japan, the talk has heated up that Square may be pursuing a remake of the legendary title for the PS3.

What may have begun simply as a means to demonstrate the power of Sony's upcoming PLAYSTATION 3 console at the E3 industry show earlier this year seems to have been picking up steam within Square as a project they might wish to pursue. Though Square representatives have claimed that the demo was created for technical demonstration reasons alone, they have not ruled out the creation of additional content based on the Final Fantasy VII storyline. They have also admitted to being pleasantly surprised by the overwhelmingly positive reactions of fans.

Such a remake could be a strong win-win situation for both Square-Enix and Sony, assuming the game would be a Playstation exclusive. Final Fantasy VII is widely attributed as being the game most responsible for setting in motion the original Playstation's march to the title of #1 console, and with the story and plot already in place, development would be eased for Square-Enix. The nostalgia factor alone would likely ensure that the game becomes one of the best-selling titles of the generation.

For those who have not yet had the chance to view the Final Fantasy tech demo, it may be viewed in all it's glory here.
 
Cell 2.0

Aqui está a diferença entre o Cell original, apresentado sob a forma de protótipo há uns meses com toda a pompa... e o Cell de produção final.
Aparentemente, o ***** (PPE) integrado é bastante maior do que no protótipo, pelo a área de superfície do chip subiu de 221mm^2 para 235mm^2...

protótipo (DD1)
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final (DD2)
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e aqui fotos para comparação entre o PPE original, o PPE novo e o PPC970 (Apple G5):
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Provavelmente, a mudança deveu-se a um último esforço para aumentar a performance em general purpose e tentar convencer a apple a usá-lo, mas não adiantou.
Por outro lado, os jogos da PS3 podem beneficiar bastante com esta alteração.

Fonte
 
blastarr disse:
Aqui está a diferença entre o Cell original, apresentado sob a forma de protótipo há uns meses com toda a pompa... e o Cell de produção final.
Aparentemente, o ***** (PPE) integrado é bastante maior do que no protótipo, pelo a área de superfície do chip subiu de 221mm^2 para 235mm^2...

protótipo (DD1)
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final (DD2)
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e aqui fotos para comparação entre o PPE original, o PPE novo e o PPC970 (Apple G5):
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Provavelmente, a mudança deveu-se a um último esforço para aumentar a performance em general purpose e tentar convencer a apple a usá-lo, mas não adiantou.
Por outro lado, os jogos da PS3 podem beneficiar bastante com esta alteração.

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se fores á thread "cell" no hardware&novidades, vais ver que ja la deixei uma informação parecida (dd2) á pelo menos 4/5 meses... E as negociações com a Apple foram só à 2 meses penso eu.
Mas na altura falava-se que o maior tamanho devia-se á introdução de mais uma unidade VMX.
 
Com tantas mudanças, começo a pensar que a abordagem da MS foi a mais acertada.
3 cores dual-thread mais complexos, chip gráfico e northbridge integrados num só chip, consola lançada antes do natal, com pelo menos 25 títulos e a 299 dólares (tudo indica)...
 
Isto são revisões planeadas... a dd2 já se fala desde março, sabiamos que eram alterações no ppe mas pensava-se que ia ser em incluir mais uma unidade VMX. A olhar para esses die-shots tambem nao consigo perceber onde mexeram.

Se a ps2 com 2 vectores a 300mhz já faz o que se vê, Com 7 a 3.2ghz e um Gpu a sério nem posso imaginar o que vai dali sair. Na minha opinião, 3 cores IO a partilhar 1mb de cache não tem nem metade do potencial do cell no que toca a fisica A.i e empurrar poligonos. Não ha mesmo comparação...


da tecnologia da x360, não gostei do UMA + chipset... foi criar um dos maiores bottlenecks (que nem no Pc existe, pois os Gpus tem Ram dedicada) e leva-lo pra X360, again (xbox1 tambem)
Basicamente, o Gpu e o Cpu vão ter que lutar por Bandwidth na Ram. A bandwidth do GPu já é pouca (128bit), mas vai ter que dividi-la com o Cpu.
A solução para poupar Bandwidth são duas: Dividir a memoria em 2 e criar 2 controladores de memoria (um no cpu e outro no gpu), ou então arranjar maneira do Gpu nao consumir tanto Bandwidth, que neste caso foi a inclusão dos 10mb Edram.

São duas boas hipoteses, a ultima é mais barata e rapida do que desenhar um controlador no cpu (tipo A64 e Cell).
 
Unconfirmed reports make War Hawk seem like one seriously amazing flight action game.
by Ivan Sulic

August 1, 2005 - At press time, we have not been able to officially confirm with Sony whether any of the following is true. Please note that calls have been placed, however. With that in mind, here's our disclaimer: The below information is unsubstantiated report. Consume it at your own risk.

In a nutshell, an anonymous source close to the Salt Lake City developers at Incognito Inc. suggests that Warhawk PS3 could be the definitive flight action game of our time. And here's exactly why...

The unconfirmed report starts off simply enough. "Warhawk is really awesome," says the bold tipster. As the story goes on, we learn that the game has recently been switched to run on "Stage-2" development kits, which suggests something more akin to real world PS3 technology than what was previously revealed at E3.

This has apparently helped Incog get the new flight engine up and running. The informant states that the underlying technology allows the game to feature upwards of "2,000 enemies on-screen at once." While this number may seem impossible, try to recall the vast amount of individual entities present in Capcom's Dead Rising, Microsoft's Kameo, Q Entertainment's Ninety Nine Nights, and Factor 5's Lair -- not to mention Incog's older E3 trailer. Consider those, then doubt. Hell, just play Rome: Total War!

In addition to raw quantity, the Incog spy says Warhawk will feel killer, too: "Most people describe it as Halo meets Star Wars meets Crimson Skies." Fans of flight action will hope that means Tie Fighter plus Zipper's Crimson Skies on PC, but it could just relate the style and feel Incog is shooting for, since the source goes on to note that it's retro like CS, though not quite so much.

But what's up with the Halo nod? Well, gamers who caught our PS3 coverage will have surely noticed the incredible soldiers present at the beginning of the Warhawk demonstration. [LINK]

It seems unlikely that Incog would go through such trouble to meticulously render ground-based models that would only get seen from an altitude of 7,000 feet and a speed of 500 miles per hour. So according to the rumor, those characters are actually part of an extensive on-foot component. We're taking the Halo mention as a "tell" and assuming it's going to be first-person. It's also said that the game is squad-based. If that applies to both aerial combat and land action is not yet clear.

Let's recap! 2,000 enemies on-screen. Check. Flight action. Check. On-foot action. Check. A combination of Halo, Crimson Skies, and Star Wars... Oh my sweet goodness.

The leak also indicates that Warhawk is tentatively scheduled to ship next fall or at least sometime before the Christmas of 2006. Sony is also purportedly shooting for a Teen rating with this one.

We'll be back with more Warhawk information if and when it becomes available. Of course, as soon as we hear from Sony, we'll update you with that official word.
 
PS3 to come with faster Blu Ray drive


Sony's PlayStation 3 may be equipped with faster than expected Blu-ray drives at launch, as it has emerged that a speedier format will be available before the next generation machine is ready for retail.

The PlayStation 3 was originally mooted to launch with a single (1X, 36Mbit per second) speed drive to run its optical media. But with the arrival of 2X (72Mbps) drives this autumn, it's hoped that by the time PS3 launches in Japan in spring 2006, faster formats will be readily available, with potential for the multimedia machine to run up to 4X, costs permitting.

Sony has yet to confirm the speed of the drive used for PS3, and its specification is open to change over the next few months - but given that some first generation Blu-ray drives are 2X, it's quite possible that will be the minimum Sony will aim for.

For its part, Microsoft has elected to stick with the existing DVD standard in Xbox 360 - although comments from Bill Gates back at the end of June suggested that the company might be considering a move to HD-DVD, a Toshiba-backed rival format to Blu-Ray, at some point in the lifespan of the console.
 
Third Party Devs Sing the Praises of the PS3



PLAYSTATION 3 (PS3) Earns the Respect of the Game Development Community
The Following are supporting comments from select third party developers and publishers. (In alphabetical order of company name).

“With the new generation PlayStation platform, we can create “GUNDAM WORLD” with the quality no one has ever imagined. The philosophy, connecting millions of Cell together, makes reality get closer to the world of SF films. We are delighted to share the vision of Ken, ARCHITECT, Kutaragi.”
-Shin Unozawa, Managing Director, Leader, Game Software Group, President, Video Game Company, BANDAI CO.,LTD.

“The PLAYSTATION 3 has us really excited! So much so in fact that we are already working our hardest to get Devil May Cry 4 out for this new platform. New hardware always yields more options for developers to create exciting and fresh gameplay experiences. I believe that the PS3 is one piece of hardware that will test the mettle of our development team and help us to create some of the most amazing games, limited only by our imagination.”
-Keiji Inafune, Managing Executive Officer, Research & Development Division, Capcom Co., Ltd.

“Each generation of PlayStation has made a dramatic improvement in how we create and play videogames. PLAYSTATION 3 will be a breakthrough in how the world experiences entertainment. EA is fully aligned with Sony Computer Entertainment – we share their vision and applaud their success. ”
-Larry Probst, Chairman and CEO, Electronic Arts

“President Kutaragi has thrown down a gauntlet. That gauntlet is called the PLAYSTATION 3. We here at KOEI have gladly taken up the challenge, and are striving day and night to take full advantage of all the PS3's new possibilities. Our goal is to combine cutting-edge technology with a full range of artistic expression to deliver the ultimate form of entertainment, and please people everywhere.”
-Keiko Erikawa, Chairman & C.E.O., KOEI Co., Ltd.

“With the arrival of the next generation computer entertainment system PLAYSTATION 3, I believe it will be possible for graphic expressions, more beautiful than before, to coexist with more deep and evolved game play which utilize the Cell architecture. I also have high expectations for the evolution by the online features that will be enhanced. We will utilize the features of the new platform and will strive to create contents that will bring new excitement for our users world wide, so please have high hopes for Konami. ”
-Kazumi Kitaue, CEO, Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.

“Each time SCEI launches a console, the video games business moves to the next level. With PLAYSTATION 3 it looks as if it might be time for interactive entertainment to become, finally, the world's dominant artistic medium. ”
-Sam Houser, President, Rockstar Games (Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.)

“We at Namco have used and will continue to use the advancements in audio-visual technology to deliver games that are not only appealing to the eyes and ears, but that stir emotions, speak to the heart, and remain in players’ minds for years to come. We are confident that the PLAYSTATION 3 is an entertainment system that will enable us to do just that.”
-Shigeru Yokoyama, CT Company President, Namco Ltd.

“Next-generation hardware platforms will enable SEGA to create new game concepts that offer more immersive interactive experiences. SEGA continues to pursue the fusion of creativity and technology by publishing only the best, more innovative content to gamers around the world.”
-Hisao Oguchi, President and Chief Operating Officer, SEGA Corporation

“Square Enix is extremely honored to have had the chance to provide you with this technical demonstration of what the Cell processor can bring to the PLAYSTATION 3 and the world of gaming. We are committed to fully backing SCEI’s new computer entertainment system and plans to bring the FINAL FANTASY series to the PS3 are just beyond the horizon.”
-Yoichi Wada, President, SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD.

“Ubisoft was one of the first major international developers to have its teams start focusing on next generation consoles. We are looking forward to developing outstanding games on Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.’s new system. Its powerful features will help take the industry to an even higher level in the very near future.”
-Yves Guillemot, President and CEO, Ubisoft
 
PS3 To Support MAC OS X Tiger

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A recent posting on the official UK Sony website has a lot of fans of console gaming drooling at the prospect of running MAC OS X Tiger on their PS3.
Sony's next-generation console, expected to launch in the spring of 2006, will feature the Cell processor, co-developed by Sony, Toshiba and IBM. The company has already claimed that the Cell will be able to support multiple operating systems although it was never made clear how such support may be implemented through the Playstation 3 console.

The account on the UK Sony website, claims: Sony is expected to offer optional hard drives for the PS3 with potential memory capacity of 80 or 120 GB. It remains to be decided whether the standard version of the PS3 will come complete with a hard drive. The operating system has also yet to be clarified. The integrated Cell processor will be able to support a variety of operating systems (such as Linux or Apple's Tiger). That final, inconspicuous looking, statement is what has caused all the excitement. The fact that IBM has been involved in Apple systems for a few years now also lends support to the arguments for OS X Tiger on PS3 as well as Apple's desire to get some form of foothold on the gaming market.

The fact however, that Intel is now taking over from IBM as processor supplier for the company's personal computers may strain any possible partnership although Sony may be willing to work on this partnership as it may help the Japanese giant hit Microsoft where it hurts; on its plans of world domination.

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/ps3tosupportmacosxtiger.shtml

Se for verdade é muito giro.
 
não foi o Steve jobs que à pouco tempo disse "quero destornar o império do windows" ?
secalhar a ideia de ter um S.O apple naquela que vai ser uma das consolas mais vendidas de todos os tempos fazia sentido...

essa de engolir.... pah, no fundo o cell é um ppc. Port mais facil de fazer não deve haver (tou a falar do tiger, por exemplo).
É-me cagativo, quero é ferramentas Audio/video para explorar o bixo...
 
Aquilo no fundo é um PC normal... tem uma board, oo Cell que é um ppc, tem uma grafica... n deve ser nada complicado por um SO lá dentro, basta quererem. Mas eu acredito-me mais que seja uma distro de Linux modificada para a PS3, afinal é freeware.
 
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